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Sucks to suck. Yeah. Because somebody else is gonna get this. Yes. And what you won't do another man will just know that one man's trash is another man's treasure facts

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What's up everybody? Welcome to the PBP podcast where we give our unsolicited opinions point blank period. I'm Hannah. I'm Sydney. Thank you guys so much for being here today. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much for tuning in to our live episode we did on Saturday, it was so much fun. It was really a blast. I was very nervous. We were both nervous. Because I mean, you're putting yourself out there and a community of people that already like don't agree with anything that you believe. And yeah, most of them don't. A lot of them do not like our show. I'm sure we are really impressed with how it went. And I'm just really grateful for it. It was so much fun. People say that. Oh, that's easy just to get on camera and talk. No, really, it's really not because we really didn't have a game plan going into it. Plus, you're vulnerable. Well, as soon as that camera comes on, you're just like, oh shit, like, I could have an audience of like 5000 right the fuck now, which we did. And I'm just saying like, you don't know who else is going to tune in? Right? But we did have a lot we really did tune in a lot of shares. Yes, but the first time we did we did it twice because we were trying to figure out how to do it how to navigate like the system. And yeah, I had brought some cheapass vodka over there was like a total of maybe 10 shots in the bottle. But I was like, Look, this is gonna help us with our nerves like let's just get loosened up because I will say when we start drinking and recording that's when shit gets really fun. Gets Yeah, gets into something.

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I couldn't even like talk properly.

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It was we were on some strong stuff. And so the first time we hit record, it was it was a mess. Like nobody tuned in except for like my boyfriend. Nobody was sharing. We couldn't share it into the groups and we were just like basically sitting there staring at the camera with like alcohol cheeks and like having to pee and so it was just it was really bad. But the second time the camera came on we had a blast with you guys did the damn thing. I mean really, and truly everybody that tuned in thank you so much. We played smash your pass we played that viral Tiktok game he's a 10 but and I really think it was just it couldn't have went better

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and we're gonna do more in the future for sure.

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1,000% after going so well the first time I think it definitely needs to become a more regular thing like a thing more often Right? Definitely. And let me just say this we saw a lot of people tune in and we only had like maybe four or five commenting if you if you're gonna watch the show say something. Just say hi just let us know you're there like you don't have to engage in conversation if you don't want to. But it just it means a lot to know who's there and who's watching because we just want to thank you for being there

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or if you're just hate watching if you hate watching that listen thank you for the engagement

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so the haters if we have any I appreciate you all so because we appreciate the engagement like it's fine like if you want to say this show sucks let us know cool that's cool we we can take it a lot of other people disagree I disagree. I think the show rocks but let us know if you feel differently.

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Yeah, I think we might do it for the pBPs birthday. Which is September 17

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Next month Yep. Which is crazy. We've been at this a year already already.

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It does not feel

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it just goes by so fast dies like it's like wow feels like just yesterday we sat down at that table to record Dondo versus CLB. And if you know you know,

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which is our most listened to episode, the very

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first episode we ever recorded, which when when we sat down to record that episode we didn't know we hadn't we didn't we never even practiced recording before we made that now we didn't you were just like I got the equipment like come over let's do it. And we literally I feel like truly and I'm not even just saying this to like pat ourselves on the back. I felt like we were naturals at it from the beginning. Suck our own decks. I'm sucking my own cock right now. We were fucking amazing at it.

Unknown Speaker  4:11  
Yeah, definitely gotten better as time I mean obviously you get sure something if you continually do it consistently this

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past year has very much been a year of growth. This this first year has been a lot of learning what you guys like what you don't like what conversations work, which ones don't? Which platforms to use, which equipment to use, like it's it's a year of learning. We've

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gone back and forth with so many platforms and so many like devices using things we need to record with. Yeah, but I think we've finally gotten our flat I

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think so too. I think so too. We've definitely found our groove and I think that's great because now year two is going to be even better than before. It's It's just I'm grateful for it. This has been it's been so much fun to have a space where we Women can feel normal and safe and safe. And it I think it's very much been what we always wanted it to be. You know, I've said it so many times before, like, this is a space where women don't have to be classy females. Like you can be a slightly sex symbol here and talk about it and it's okay, you can be a bad mom, you can be a bad friend, you can be a bad girlfriend, everybody fucks up women are often in the shadow of like, you're a woman act like a woman.

Unknown Speaker  5:28  
They expect us to be I mean, we are Rockstar. Absolutely. Some days, we don't want to be that, right. Don't want to feel that way. Because we're human. Yeah, some days we don't want to cook some days, we don't want to fucking clean some days, we just want to sit on the fine couch and eat chocolate like a slob. And you know, not have to, I don't want to say deal with your kids. But like, you just want to chill, right and be a person.

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And one thing I know that, you know, we can't relate to but we have a lot of listeners who are moms, and we love you. And we love you. We we totally love you. I know that. There's been so many episodes where me and Hannah are like it kids. No, no, thank you. But we still love you. And we see you and we hear you. And I think that you know, this show opens up the floor for moms to still be those badass women, those sex symbols, you know what I'm saying? Like moms are expected to be so much more and they do it. Well, moms are amazing. But you still have this person inside of you that just wants to have fun and let loose. And I think that this show has been very much that for everyone

Unknown Speaker  6:38  
agree. And it's like, again, some days you just don't want to do all the things that you're supposed to do. Exactly, exactly. As a parent, as you know, a woman quote unquote, and just

Unknown Speaker  6:49  
fucking up as a person in general. Yeah, I mean, we've we've been very vulnerable on the show and very open about things that I never in a million years would have imagined that I would get on a mic and release it to 1000s of people. But we did because we are human and we want you to know that the things that you are going through, most likely, lots of other people are going through it too, right? Oh, you cheated. It's okay. A lot of us have been there or you've been cheated on Oh, it's okay. A lot of us have been there. We want you to feel normal life it's life. And so that's why we put ourselves out there. Here's what

Unknown Speaker  7:25  
I was trying to say women are always expected to be perfect and never fuck up. You know, always do right by their kids and do the right things for their husbands cook clean be all these things be the faithful one. But obviously, nobody's perfect in this world. And here, you don't have to be a perfect human right? Because we're not we're not we never will be.

Unknown Speaker  7:48  
And I think that that's why you know, our thing from the very beginning is we always say we're bringing our very personal text messaging threads to guys, we say that because in our text messages, we talk about our bullshit our shit that we go through our drama that we go through our, our mental health, you know, the things that you discuss with your besties we're bringing it out here to you guys, right? Y'all are our besties. Like, let's talk about it. Let's talk

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about unsolicited opinion. Yes. But if you don't want them, all you have to do is click off, click off.

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Yeah, here we go. I'm sucking our dicks again. But But I think it's very brave of us to speak on things that we wholeheartedly believe in and care about as much as we have,

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especially in such a conservative area that we live in to the listeners

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that aren't from where we're from the ones that are Nope, that they are but it's it's a very, we live in a community where a lot of things just aren't welcome and aren't accepted. And so we've had a lot of people turn their backs on us. And that's fine by I don't give a fuck. That's not why I'm saying this. But I also think it's very admirable and very brave. And in even with like the donations that we made to the New River abortion access fund, and then we had some for domestic violence at the beginning of the year, which we're about to do again, I just think I just think we were fucking kick ass. And I promised I'm going to quit sucking our dicks. But it has to be said I think I think this year is one to be praised. I think we did great. Yeah.

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And of course, we're going to continue to grow. Year two is definitely where we really get to hone in on our craft and like be of course be better, but like really, really do

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write better, right? Because now that we found our groove and what works now we can focus on other things. And really, really growing our conversations and our topics and trying you know, newer things that might benefit us and I guess to close that out, we just appreciate you guys so much, especially the ones that have been there from the beginning and the ones that have stuck with us through you know, our times we've been very quiet because you know why? Fuck happens. Yeah, you know, we appreciate you.

Unknown Speaker  10:02  
It's not like we were gone for a long, long time. Like, again, if we're gone, it's not for good. It's never forget, we'll be back. Yeah, don't you worry. It's just either one, like one of us is dealing with something either medical or you know, with family or just mentally Yeah. Or mentally in general, both of us get mentally, like drained and exhausted. And that should be enough to understand why we're gone.

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And, you know, I think a lot of people would say, it's just a podcast, like you're just sitting down and talking. You're right, we are just sitting down and talking. And it is something that I consider to be very fun and relaxing and, and therapeutic for me personally. But there's also sometimes people just don't feel like sitting around and talking.

Unknown Speaker  10:49  
And let me let me tell you something, if you think it's just sitting down and talking, it's not it is not just doing that. And I'll tell you right now, you don't get it. Yeah,

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it's it is work.

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It's talk it I mean, it's just it's conversation, but you also have to think of the subjects that you want to talk about. And sometimes it's hard to do it. It's hard to come up with sublight certain topics you haven't already discussed. I agree.

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Yeah, it takes bravery to Yeah, because you got a lot of people that tune into this stuff.

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Yeah. And then there's editing it, which I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't understand.

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Even I don't I don't edit the show. I mean, so I mean, but I do know that there's a lot of work that goes in

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and I really I really just started last episode doing it. You know how fucking long it took me to edit that episode four or five hours?

Unknown Speaker  11:40  
Yeah, it is more than than that. And I think it's fun work for me is I think this is our niche. I think this is our thing. I think we're good at it. And I hope the PvP is a show for a very long time,

Unknown Speaker  11:53  
we will be hopefully getting into a studio within the next few months. Oh my god, that makes me so excited because I think we'll be getting our downstairs finished within the next month or two. Look,

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we are not going to know how to act when we get that suit. Yeah,

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I definitely won't because I have to move shit around and set it up. And you know, make sure everything looks okay. Like camera looks good computer everything. And so it's hard. Yeah, like, leaving it there.

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And just being like, oh, let's go downstairs to record it. Yeah, the best. Yeah. And also, you know, it'll be decorated really cute with like, both of our vibes kind of like mixed together. And I think I think next this coming year for the PvP, we'll have more guests hopefully, yeah, we'll have

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we'll have a table and stuff like yeah, there's and everything. So we'll actually have a space to open up for guest

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1,000%. So if you've been thinking about wanting to come on here and talk about something like let us know, we're gonna start putting people on the books

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where we're excited for your to do absolutely, I'm excited. So any period, we had, you know, a couple of other like short nuggets to talk about really quickly, and then we'll get into our main subject. But first, you guys registered to vote, please. This is important. This midterm election is probably one of the most important elections of our time or in American history because Fascism is here. It is real Christo Fascism is here not to shit on Christian not to shit on all Christians. But there are Christian nationalist here and wanting to get into Congress and want to turn this into a fascist society into a Nazi society, period. I'm saying this I'm not trying to scare I'm not trying to fear monger. I'm not trying to do any of that. But it's the truth.

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Yeah, it is scary. It is fucking scary. And you should be fucking scared. And the only way to change it is by making a difference. And by and the only way we can really use our voice is by voting.

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I mean, and this is really probably the last election that's going to be a free and fair election because there is a Supreme Court case that's coming up more of you, Harper look it up. It's north. I think it was the North Carolina legislator that is bringing it to SCOTUS and basically, it's legislators can choose to throw out ballots and which ones are right and which one's wrong. This is the whole reason why we put in one of the amendments before because of corruption. Yeah, this past year was SCOTUS has been devastating, debilitating, disgusting, and it's upsetting. It is. So we need you to vote friends, don't let friends skip elections.

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That's facts.

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I finally got Sydney to vote for the first time like a couple years ago, and she hasn't missed an election since

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no, no because I I think, you know, back then I cared but I didn't like there was just, I just didn't put my opinions out there, I didn't take the time to educate myself and learn about what was really going on. And then when I was encouraged to do so it made a very big difference. And it's, it's kind of like an empty feeling. If you don't vote, you know, you're sitting there waiting on the results. And you're just like, I really didn't exercise that right. And that's shitty,

Unknown Speaker  15:29  
it is your it's your right to, to choose who you want, as you know, a president as a Congress member in you want them to have the same beliefs as you and that's important. Very, it's important to use your voice to vote, I agree. And again, this could be one of the last free and fair elections we have.

Unknown Speaker  15:55  
It's very much upsetting to hear. And and, like I say, I was this person, but it's very much upsetting, especially with everything that's going on now with women and for people to say, I don't give a fuck, I'm not I'm not vote, I don't give a fuck, I don't like none of them.

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Well, you should care, right?

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It's very upsetting. I mean, men to like, look like we need you now more more than ever, right? And so to be on our side, and to hopefully help make a change of what's going on. Just just vote. That's really it. That's the simple instruction, just get out and exercise that right.

Unknown Speaker  16:30  
Even in a primary race. That's important too. If you don't want a certain person in, you can vote against them, right. So do that if it's possible in your state, if you want to register to vote, text voter 226797 Or go to I am a voter.com to register because friends don't let friends skip election period. And we can link all that I've been voting since I was 18. Since I was illegally allowed to vote, right? I worked the polls the year that Obama won a second term. I was so proud of myself, it feels like a accomplishing like you're accomplishing something done. You're there and you're you're a part of it. Right. And it's huge. Yeah, I'm sorry. Like, ever since I have been able to understand government elections and all that, like President Obama's era was the best era.

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Oh my god, you know what, like,

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I didn't feel unsafe.

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I miss Obama. I miss Michelle's. I will. I remember when they won the election in 2008. And she was like, trying to like take like the unhealthy food out of schools. I thought that was like so devastating back then. I was like, Bitch What the fuck? But you know, what if that was our only worry today,

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right? And people absolutely freaked out because he wore a fucking tan suit. Oh, like that was like the biggest scandal that he had the entire

Unknown Speaker  18:01  
let's let's reiterate. The biggest scandal was him wearing a tan suit. Scandals today are much more serious. Yeah. than that. Yeah. So that's just he that's true in your brain.

Unknown Speaker  18:12  
I think I read like in an article that he is one of the only presidents to go without a big scandal in years

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and his energy to like, even still today when he speaks is just so like, comforting. The vibes are just so on and so right. They're comforting. They are comforting and as a woman today in today's world, it's nothing is comfortable, right? It feels like our lives don't matter black people people of color feel like their lives don't matter. How did we get here? It's just it's so dark compared to those days back then

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I can tell you how we got there. But oh, yeah, we're not we're not sure and

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I know that was a hypothetical

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we're not going to do today because this was just supposed to be vote yes. Yes. This is now linked the period number the text where you can text and then the website Yep, so next P and Kim are done. They're over

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not me like trying really hard not to say the other one.

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She said that the other thing or

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I'm not gonna lie to you. We tried to record this once before and I was just like talking away and I called him ski and I didn't mean to I did not fucking mean to it's because we were talking about Kanye and all of his toxic bullshit. And it just came out of my mouth. So now I'm really struggling not to say that so bear with me so they're done they're done the the publicity stunt has came to an end

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so we think so we think it was a publicity stunt right? I go back and forth with

Unknown Speaker  19:48  
well like I said before, everything was celebrities we in anything we discuss about pop culture like we we don't obviously know right like it's it's all speculation like we can only discuss what We've learned and in the media and like I was telling Hannah like her and Kanye couldn't have been together this entire time. Yeah. And like, NPT is just like an accessory for money. Just a big scandal. We don't know. Yeah, I will say that I got to a point where I was rooting for Pete and Kim. Even though I do feel like they just didn't go together like they just didn't match. And it's not sad that they broke up. I just hate it for Pete because he does struggle with mental health man

Unknown Speaker  20:28  
wants to be loved so bad, just wants to be loved. He wants to be loved so bad. I will love so sad has borderline personality disorder. But that comes from your childhood. And it comes from abandonment. Like obviously, his dad died during 911. And, you know, that wasn't something that he asked for.

Unknown Speaker  20:48  
No, it wasn't. And he's been through it. And I just wish he could find a good loving woman that loves him for him. And I don't think that was ever supposed to be Kim. I think he thought it could be but I don't think Kim ever saw it that way. I think she was just like, Oh, what a fun fling right to have after my divorce. Pete can't

Unknown Speaker  21:07  
level her up. No, she can't be taken to a higher level with Pete at any capacity. Like he's I don't want to say he's beneath her. Because he's not beneath her. Like, no, he's not, you know, I'm trash. And she's elite, but you're

Unknown Speaker  21:26  
talking social level? Yeah. I mean, it's the fucking Kardash

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I don't think you can get any higher. You can't you can't get any. Unless you're marrying like a billionaire.

Unknown Speaker  21:36  
I think. I think a lot of us can relate, I guess. Like, you know, you've been in a serious relationship for so long. And then you find someone who's never really been your type. But like, they're kind of fun. Like they're showing you something new. Like, this is kind of helping me get over that heartbreak. It's taken my attention somewhere else and, and the sex is good and whatever. And I think that that's all it ever was for Kim, and

Unknown Speaker  21:57  
then it kind of peters out after a while. This isn't really fun anymore. I'm ready to move on to something more serious.

Unknown Speaker  22:03  
I you have healed me. Yeah. And your purpose here is done.

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Thank you Next area.

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Thank you Next. Right,

Unknown Speaker  22:10  
exactly. And I think that's exactly why she made that song too. It seems like we won't go down that rabbit hole today. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  22:18  
And we'll save that for another time. But you had sent me a tick tock that I actually just watched right before we started recording. And she made a lot of good points, kind of just basically about what I just said, you know, it's I think it was just something that he took further because he had his whole heart into it. You know, getting my girls a lawyer tatted on one thing, and I don't ever want to speak ill on Pete Davidson, because I love him but getting her kids initials tatted on him.

Unknown Speaker  22:44  
It's no, I'm not doing that. Unless like I'm not I mean, probably not even as a step parent, I would never do that, that that for me would have been a big turn off. And I could see why Kanye would probably get pissed off about it to 1,000% as it will piss me off as a parent. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  23:00  
I that would not fly over well with me. i

Unknown Speaker  23:04  
It was weird. Like I just have all y'all aren't even married.

Unknown Speaker  23:07  
And there's speculation that he had proposed and I think it just kind of pushed him away because he's just impulsive. He is impulsive. And and I think it pushed him away because it was never supposed to be that for her. I think this was something that she saw as fun. And that's it. I

Unknown Speaker  23:24  
agree. Because he she was just coming out of that divorce and she got

Unknown Speaker  23:28  
with him quickly. She did. That's another big sign that this was something that she was doing just to help heal her heart.

Unknown Speaker  23:34  
Right because she went on SNL Kanye was at SNL,

Unknown Speaker  23:38  
right? He was I saw that on that Kardashians. But he like

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stormed off because of something that she said which if you watched it wasn't even like

Unknown Speaker  23:48  
bad. Well, she made it clear to everyone. Yeah, the jokes that she was going to tell. Yeah, and I don't know. I can say good things about Kanye. I can say really bad things about Congress. And

Unknown Speaker  23:58  
again, I Kanye days. If you're listening Kanye. I love your music. Yeah, you're you're brilliant when it comes to artistic genius, music and production and all the things but man, take your medicine. Please. Please like for the love of God. Take your medicine. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  24:17  
it's very it's very important to take care of your mental health.

Unknown Speaker  24:21  
It's debilitating for him. Like yeah, not taking your medicine. We can just tell on the outside looking in, like how debilitating it is when he's not taking it. Right.

Unknown Speaker  24:31  
Right. So I just wish them the best. I wish Pete The best I hope that he finds somebody who actually loves him and

Unknown Speaker  24:37  
I think he needs to be with somebody who isn't famous. Right? That's just like even though he is famous like he's never in like really the paparazzi and like, really in, in in the limelight. Right. He's not really a star quote unquote, if you will, he just needs I feel like he needs to be with somebody who's very down to earth very normal.

Unknown Speaker  25:00  
Yeah, and somebody who loves as hard as him. Me. Yeah, I agree. So I hope that he finds

Unknown Speaker  25:05  
me too. So what else? Oh, we were going to talk about our major topic. So first, Saturday before we went live, we watched a couple episodes of teen mom to like the early, early episodes of teen mom too. And one of the episodes was Janelle running after kefir when he broke up with and running to his car to like, Hey,

Unknown Speaker  25:34  
don't leave. Get out of the car, roll the window down. Yeah,

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I was like, it so dramatic.

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It really sparked a conversation in our mind, because, you know, when they recorded this, they were teenagers. They were they were young as fuck,

Unknown Speaker  25:47  
like when I was 1819 out like, this is fucking peak television,

Unknown Speaker  25:51  
television. But we we watch it back as grown women and seeing her chase after this car. Fucking key for the piece of shit that he is right and seeing how upset she was and how dramatic she was being and I'm like, You know what, like, teenage heartbreak is so serious. It's so real. It is dramatic and it is painful. And I think that you know, everyone's been through that. There's been a time where we've begged that person to stay Why are you leaving? Please don't leave. I love you. It's

Unknown Speaker  26:23  
probably over like the stupid shit

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1,000% I think it really just kind of brought that up in our minds like looking back on all the dramatic shit we've done for boyfriends and in relationships is so embarrassing

Unknown Speaker  26:36  
bear and bear. And imagine like it being on live television.

Unknown Speaker  26:41  
Oh yeah, that's 10 times worse. Definitely. And for her to have to it's always there like she can never erase it or ever get rid of it. And I'm sure Janelle looks back on that specific episode and she's like, Oh my fucking god like Are you shitting me like I really chase after such a piece of shit like kefir was literally the worst the worst

Unknown Speaker  27:00  
and I don't know Adams pretty bad too

Unknown Speaker  27:03  
terrible. absolutely fucking terrible deal is a piece of shit. Like and just seeing them cry over these boys like it just it's so relatable.

Unknown Speaker  27:11  
It is. It's very much relatable like Chelsea I can understand but like it goes to another level because Chelsea had a baby with Adam and she wanted their family family to work right now. But Janelle girl did not have a like a kid with Kieffer. And I think it was the fact that she had any issues. Yeah, she has a fear of abandonment too. Yeah, I think that's why like she can't live without a male presence

Unknown Speaker  27:40  
it took her a long time to mature to be to want to be a mom also. Like she she having her baby was not enough for her to want to to put aside that party lifestyle and smoking and drinking and I'm sorry but she carried that shit

Unknown Speaker  27:56  
and fuck yes, she did. She can carry her and Farrah both carried Farrah carry Teen Mom OG and Janelle carried teen mom to Yeah, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. And Caitlin kind of did in her earlier years to when she was with Javi and Joe, like going back and forth between the two and like when she was still like mean,

Unknown Speaker  28:21  
right? Yeah, I Yeah. It's, it was just it was just a fun thing to kind of think about and look back on on ourselves as teenagers like, yeah, it should is dramatic. And it was painful. So

Unknown Speaker  28:33  
it is like, I mean, I can remember doing the same fucking things like, not to that extent, like I'm not, I wasn't going out and like doing drugs and like going out partying, and you know, I didn't have a kid either. So, and honestly, there probably are more people like Janelle than we really think about for sure there are women who just aren't ready to be parents and have a baby and kind of put them off on their parents to raise their kid. Right. And there's a lot more like that. Yeah, than we probably think.

Unknown Speaker  29:11  
I agree. It's just wild. I mean, the cringe. It's cringy now but it was just so serious to us back then. And I'm not saying like you know, now we obviously have more of a tough exterior with our boyfriends or husbands or whatever like oh, you're leaving okay by like, but at the same time, like get the fuck out. I don't want to lose Jordan. I don't want to lose my relationship. So I will fight for my relationship. I might not run after his vehicle on television. Like Janelle did. But you know you you have to decide what's worth it and what's worth fighting for.

Unknown Speaker  29:48  
Bro Jenelle went to fucking jail

Unknown Speaker  29:50  
yucky for she was a rather die bitch.

Unknown Speaker  29:54  
Okay, would you go to jail for your spouse for Jordan or for your boyfriend? I would not go to jail for my boy. Random

Unknown Speaker  30:01  
oh no girl just depends on the situation.

Unknown Speaker  30:05  
You would take the heat for something that you did not do maybe at this episode is over, maybe

Unknown Speaker  30:12  
I just depends on what it is. I mean,

Unknown Speaker  30:14  
if it's murder clearly something bad if you're going to jail,

Unknown Speaker  30:18  
but that could also be something as simple as like fucking weed

Unknown Speaker  30:22  
weeds legal here so irrelevant white people.

Unknown Speaker  30:27  
Black men are still gonna get carried to jail with weed.

Unknown Speaker  30:29  
What it's decriminalized, bitch,

Unknown Speaker  30:32  
you know what I'm saying they have a harder time with police than when than we do. So if like if there's like an amount the over the legal limit.

Unknown Speaker  30:39  
I mean, it's a hypothetical.

Unknown Speaker  30:41  
You get what I'm saying? I'm just saying that might be a situation where I where I might, but

Unknown Speaker  30:46  
I'm saying in a serious situation. I don't know my I really don't know he did something really bad. I might

Unknown Speaker  30:54  
not. I might not. I might not go to jail for him. But I'm definitely going to try to get him out. What if he was accused of sexual assault? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's different. No, never. No, that's, that's something that's not forgivable.

Unknown Speaker  31:09  
Yeah, I agree. Unless he has like receipts to prove that he did not right.

Unknown Speaker  31:13  
Like if I if I firmly believed him and saw proof that he Yeah, I'm arrived for my man. I don't give a fuck what people think like I know the truth is is not him. Yeah, but no, otherwise now.

Unknown Speaker  31:23  
Yeah. To know just like when to hug in jail for key items. Like girl straight up and down. She did that. She was like, also, apparently Janelle was like really smart. I mean, I think she graduated with an associate's degree. But apparently she doesn't did really well in school. But once she, you know, started dating Keefer her life just kind of went to shit. Yeah. So do we stay in that relationship? Ladies, if he's bringing you down? Or do you dip, you know, people

Unknown Speaker  31:50  
can give you advice on what they think you should do all day long, right? Like he's bringing you down, like, and clearly people from the outside looking in can see that. But nobody actually knows what's going on. You're in your relationship, but you, you have to decide what's worth it. You know, I think that if people have offered advice, and you choose not to listen, and you continue to stay, and he keeps cheating, he's a serial cheater. And you know, I think there comes a point where you either stay and shut the fuck up, like quit crying about it, or leave, I think that's what it really comes down to like, you have to decide what's worth it for you personally, I agree. And I've gotten to a place now with friends and even my sister with her the boyfriends that she's had, and I can feel some type of way about your man, but it's not my relationship, I'm not gonna judge you. If you want to stay, stay.

Unknown Speaker  32:38  
That's your decision. That's your prerogative

Unknown Speaker  32:40  
day, I will be nice to him when you bring him around me. And I'm

Unknown Speaker  32:44  
also going to be there for you when he fucks you over my heart,

Unknown Speaker  32:48  
that's never going to change. But I think if you stay with someone who's constantly fucking you over bringing you down, or whatever the situation may be, if you choose to stay with them, don't keep nagging him, because it shouldn't be a surprise to you that this person hasn't changed and probably isn't going to change. So what's the point in staying with someone if you're just gonna lie around and be like, hey, texting,

Unknown Speaker  33:10  
if you're always concerned about what they're doing, right?

Unknown Speaker  33:14  
This is this is the situation that you've decided to be in and

Unknown Speaker  33:18  
stay in, if you're always paranoid about what they are doing next, right? Who they're texting, where they're at, who they're with, you made that decision for yourself to feel paranoid to feel like you aren't in control of the situation, right? But you are, you can leave,

Unknown Speaker  33:35  
you can leave. And I think I think that's really what it boils down to. I think in any given situation, you're left with those two choices like stay or leave if you stay shut up and put up with it because that's what you've decided to do nagging and trying to fix it trying to fix him trying to change him that's never going to work he's not going to change but if you decide to leave you do have the upper hand you do have the upper hand to change your life and and talk all the shit that you want to you have a chance to level up period. I think that's the point here is like nobody's judging you not at this age. I mean, everybody, you know, everybody finds that person, whether that person is good or not, you find some sort of comfort in that person and you find something about them. It might be the smallest thing that you love and you tend to cling on to that one thing. He's a good person, you know what's good about it, but everybody I'm just saying like it's up to you. It's really it's at your discretion what you think is worth it but if you think it's worth it to stick around and put up with it, then then do that but you can't keep making a big serious thing out of it.

Unknown Speaker  34:41  
I agree. You know, again, I don't have kids and even if you're trying to make it work for your family like the kids are suffering right through it right you guys continually fighting continually him continually going out on you. Yeah. Were you continually going out on him both cheating. Yeah, it's It's not about you guys anymore. It's about the kids stuff. They're suffering to toxic environment. Yeah. And they will remember they don't need to go through that just fucking separate

Unknown Speaker  35:10  
and and another thing too is I think like, you know, women will stay with the child's father because this is our family. This is what I want. You know what I couldn't respect my mom more for leaving my dad, she showed me as a woman, what not to put up with what not to stick around for and you know what I couldn't I couldn't respect her more

Unknown Speaker  35:29  
to have the power, the willpower a child will understand up and leave and look, your mom is with an amazing guy. Yes, the best guy, the best guy

Unknown Speaker  35:39  
1,000%. And I don't think divorce and separation is as traumatic on your child as you think it's more traumatic and toxic for them to stay in a situation in a family and see physical and verbal and mental abuse. Well, we

Unknown Speaker  35:55  
were raised in this like patriarchal society where, you know, if you gotten divorced, then it's harder for the woman to find another man. Right, which is bullshit. That shouldn't be the reality. I won't date a guy who has a kid, right? I personally, that's just a personal thing. Yeah, just because for one I know like, there are some women who are very protective of their children and are jealous, right. And plus, I think this is also has to do with being raised by boomers. Also, my grandparents have been married for 50 plus years, they have three kids like they have that nuclear family, right? Like they have the perfect quote unquote, perfect family. By no means are they perfect, but they from the outside. I would want to have that. Also, there's nothing wrong

Unknown Speaker  36:47  
with blended families. Everybody can have a personal preference. It's just

Unknown Speaker  36:51  
me. I'm also jealous person. Like, you have a kid with her but not with me.

Unknown Speaker  36:55  
You gotta go. You gotta go to their soccer game together. Okay. But the fun Yeah. No, I agree. And I think it's, I think it's very immature to not even begin to put yourself in that situation, especially with jealousy, because I'm the same way. Yeah, it comes with a lot of baggage. And it comes with a lot of history.

Unknown Speaker  37:16  
I've even said that from a young age, like 1618 to 1718 years old, like I would never, I don't think I would ever date a guy who has a kid right? Again, that's just my preference.

Unknown Speaker  37:28  
And there's nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. So basically, our message to you is this put up with what you think is worth it, but put up or shut up. That's the message which this next thing is not really the same thing. But I think it's a big, big part of our world today. And I just kind of want to give our opinions on what we think about it and what we're okay with when it comes to this and how it affects relationships today. And before we get into this, let me preface this by saying this is not to disrespect sex workers, only fans models,

Unknown Speaker  38:00  
none of that anybody with only rands, honestly get your bag, get your

Unknown Speaker  38:04  
bag. That is not what this conversation is for. But I don't think it's a secret that it has become an issue in a lot of modern day relationships. So only fans, we don't

Unknown Speaker  38:16  
have only fans. I don't have the

Unknown Speaker  38:19  
title was a little click Beatty, but

Unknown Speaker  38:22  
surprise. No, we don't have

Unknown Speaker  38:25  
any fans is actually just us sitting here talking on the mic and winking at you the whole time. Okay, so I think there's been a lot of relationships where we're women are finding like, oh, he has subscribed to so and so's only fans and he's buying premium Snapchats off of these women and I think that's a problem. I think that's a big fucking problem. Because here's the thing, I am okay with Jordan watching porn don't have a problem with that hop on. Pornhub get your rocks off. I really don't care naked porn models don't bother me. It's

Unknown Speaker  38:55  
not real. It's

Unknown Speaker  38:56  
not real porn. sexual encounters are not real. It's not real. Live sex is never that freaky. Unless you're getting paid to do it like them unless you've had a BBL and all of the things but it hits a little different when it's your local only fans model, you know, posting her titties and her ass and her pussy and all of the things on his timeline for him to see and tempting him to buy it. And again, that's not her fault. That's her line of work. That's what she does to make money. I think what it boils down to is a lot of men sorry to the men that are listening, but men just do not have the maturity and the willpower to look away when they're in a relationship. I think that social media is a fucking privilege for relationships. If you are not mature enough to use it, don't have it period.

Unknown Speaker  39:46  
I 100% agree.

Unknown Speaker  39:48  
I seen something on Facebook that was like Snapchat is such a relationship killer Bear Bear Bear NO your significant other that doesn't know how to properly handle social media and Snapchat is the rear cell right? AI is the relationship killer.

Unknown Speaker  40:01  
Yeah. Why are you so afraid of them sneaking and talking to somebody they shouldn't be talking to

Unknown Speaker  40:08  
right? You You don't have to feel insecure with him having Twitter, which is the hotspot for only fans, pornographic images and things like that, because Twitter allows you, you shouldn't be insecure. And him having that specific application or Snapchat, where, you know, women are trying to sell their premium snap or whatever, if he if he's not giving you any reason not to. And another thing, I think it's an issue, especially if you're in a domestic relationship with someone you're paying bills together. You have a kid together or a dog together. I'm sorry, I don't want my 2499 going on this bitches. Posey,

Unknown Speaker  40:42  
give me my $25. back, please. Right.

Unknown Speaker  40:46  
I think that's a big issue. So yes, I would have a problem with Jordan supporting only fans models.

Unknown Speaker  40:52  
I agree. Unless like, again, if it was somebody famous, or you know,

Unknown Speaker  40:56  
I just think Pornhub is free.

Unknown Speaker  40:58  
Exactly. I agree to that, too.

Unknown Speaker  41:01  
I don't think you should be paying for any nude images or videos there is there is more things that our money computer can

Unknown Speaker  41:08  
be going towards and go look at naked pictures on Google

Unknown Speaker  41:11  
1,000%, I can literally type you up a bunch of them and put them on just one document for you. And you can have it would take me literally

Unknown Speaker  41:19  
show a PowerPoint presentation.

Unknown Speaker  41:24  
It really isn't that hard. And this is again, not to knock only fans models. But I also find it very disrespectful if you are personally reaching out to someone who you know is in a relationship and tempting them with all my only fans today is only 999. Today only bro like, again, he should have the maturity to not accept but you're also tempting, right? And that's disrespectful.

Unknown Speaker  41:46  
Right? So you're selling your policy for 999. Why?

Unknown Speaker  41:51  
Why it's just not right. Like there's nothing wrong with you, you know, advertising to a certain crowd, but it doesn't have to be someone who you know, is in a committed relationship.

Unknown Speaker  42:00  
And look, I think prostitution should be legalized for sure. Because it's a victimless crime. like nobody's getting hurt in this situation. Right? Why is prostitution illegal, but only vans is legal, like prostitution is legal in many other European countries, and they're doing just fine.

Unknown Speaker  42:19  
I think sex work is should should be legal all around. Plus, it will

Unknown Speaker  42:23  
reduce the amount of sex trafficking agreed there is yeah, it would reduce sex trafficking by a huge margin for sure. And of course, we're not going to do that because they have to keep people incarcerated.

Unknown Speaker  42:36  
Yeah, so today's world is just very much it's just different it's just it's there's sex everywhere. There's literally it's all over the place like all over I think I guess my point is that yes, I do have a problem with you buying Stacey from the gas station down the roads tidies on social media,

Unknown Speaker  42:55  
like we've come so far, I guess we can go back to like Playboy and stuff when it started, like we have come so far when we're talking about sexuality and sex. Yeah. And you don't have to be secretive about it anymore. So I'm reading a book called Peyton Place, and I just started reading it, but it was banned. And it's not even like about government issues or anything. It's about sex. And it's about women and men having like affairs and shit and like a small town like our town, you know, like that shit actually happened. And it was banned, because it was sleazy, it was trashy was all the things that you shouldn't be putting in people's heads. Because back in the 50s, it was written in the 50s, which was, again a conservative time, you shouldn't be putting that in people's heads. That's what the government was saying about that book. It was illegal in Canada, like they weren't even able to get it in Canada. Right. It was banned at a lot of public libraries. Because it was so salacious and sleazy. But it is it's a staple for literature now, because it kind of changed how we think as a society and how things actually really are in the world. Like, yes, this actually happens not in your straight laced community, people cheat on each other. People have sex out of marriage, people have babies out of wedlock. It's not a secret, right? And, you know, back in the 50s, people are like, Oh, I belong in the wrong generation, like, you have no clue what they were doing back in the 50s. Because nobody talked about it. Nobody would say anything about what the next door neighbors were doing with each other. They weren't talking about lesbian couples. So what I'm trying to say is like, we've come a long way was sex, and even with Playboy like it started in the 50s that it started a sexual revolution, all that Yeah. And again, like I said, sex has changed so much, we're able to to talk about it, it's not like a secret anymore to talk about things like that. But there is a respectful way to go about it. For sure, there really is. And you know, there's nothing wrong with, you know, us talking about sex saying policy, you know, dig, whatever.

Unknown Speaker  45:17  
Don't come for us, like, you know, who

Unknown Speaker  45:19  
cares about talking about sex. It's the fact that you're buying these models or whoever's pictures when you're in a relationship with somebody and you're using our money to buy these things. Right. That's what it comes down. So would you do would you say the same thing about if they bought a playboy subscription?

Unknown Speaker  45:43  
Yeah, probably. I don't think you should pay for any type of porn. It's fucking free. There's 1000s and 1000s of 1000s of very pornographic explicit freaky shit on the internet.

Unknown Speaker  45:54  
Definitely. We in fetish, like fetish shit,

Unknown Speaker  45:58  
ever. You don't need to pay for none of that.

Unknown Speaker  46:00  
I agree. But the thing is, is like with Playboy, also, like it also has very, you know, liberal ideals when it comes to articles and shit. But you can also read that online. Yeah, you can also read Time Magazine, like New York Times, whatever. Like, I think that's why Playboy isn't what it used to be right at all, like in the 90s. And in the early night, at the beginning of its time, too, because men didn't have that you know, access to computers and you know, online things now that we have men just

Unknown Speaker  46:37  
aren't I'm sorry, I don't know, I guess I guess because I hear so much of this lately from relationships. And it's it's a constant threat. It is a threat to relationships, because men have a hard time looking past that shit.

Unknown Speaker  46:50  
So let me ask you a question. A hypothetical question. If you did live back in the 50s and 60s, and there were there was obviously no access to the internet or anything of the sort and he had a subscription to playboy. Would you be upset

Unknown Speaker  47:04  
a subscription to playboy? Probably yeah, probably just because I just don't feel especially with the way young couples struggle that that's like important,

Unknown Speaker  47:14  
I agree. But like at the same time, they didn't have access to porn on on Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  47:19  
yeah, they didn't, but I just I have to stand strong on that opinion. If it has to be paid for like if you really need to see somebody else's vagina that bad that you're willing to spend money on it? It's a turnoff to me, but we

Unknown Speaker  47:31  
talked about Marilyn Monroe being like the sex symbol on Playboy again, like she wasn't asked to be on playboy. He just bought the pictures which is fucked up. But it's yeah, we talk about her like she's this amazing sex and well, but you will be upset that your husband looked at her naked

Unknown Speaker  47:47  
not that he's looking at her naked it just more comes down to the financial aspect of it.

Unknown Speaker  47:51  
So you'd be upset that he bought the magazine to look at her naked? Yes,

Unknown Speaker  47:55  
it just I mean, yeah, probably Yeah. If they're if we're spending money on shit like that when we've got other things to worry about. Yeah, that's that's the part that would piss me off. Not that he's looking at her naked. It's just the financial aspects.

Unknown Speaker  48:05  
I get it. Yeah, yeah, but again, things were different back then. financially. Yeah, and stuff like yeah, Playboy he was like 50 cent I

Unknown Speaker  48:12  
don't think it's something that I would like leave my man over. No, I think it's something that could be worked through but if he asked me my opinion on him, but purchasing the magazine wouldn't be like it's fucking stupid. Like we have a fucking thing

Unknown Speaker  48:23  
The thing is though, with like Playboy and stuff, it's more artistic winning instead of like sleazy

Unknown Speaker  48:28  
Yeah, it is I think Playboy what they did for sex is amazing definitely. I have no issue with that. I just I just feel like buying it is where the issue comes in. But again like

Unknown Speaker  48:42  
we all like they also treated those girls like shit too. They did what we need to do part to our Playboy Yeah, because I have a lot of shit that I want to say about it. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  48:52  
yeah, there is a lot more to that that we have to go over we're we're behind on that sorry but we will get into it. But again,

Unknown Speaker  48:59  
like you said social media is a relationship killer and it's killed a lot of religion because

Unknown Speaker  49:05  
people don't know how to properly handle it. Like if you if you cannot get on social media and scroll past only fans are scroll past you know, people who are possibly you know, flirting with you or trying to talk to you if you can't maturely go past all that and respect our relationship then you don't need it. You don't need it. Like it looks like I'm going to have to treat you like a child. And have you deleted off your phone. Yeah, like I'm not that type of girlfriend and thank God I haven't had to do that with Jordan. But if he if he did show me signs that he could not just absolutely could not quit thirsting over women on the internet then yeah, it looks like we're gonna have to treat you like a toddler. Yeah, I agree. It's not the social media apps that I have a problem with. It's the men or and the women that can't maturely handle being committed. Not really

Unknown Speaker  49:54  
like it's not necessarily us putting or liking other dudes pictures that like oh, Are that our thirst traps or whatever it's like men and or like I guess women do message other dudes and are like oh my god you're so hot yeah blah blah blah blah blah like no

Unknown Speaker  50:12  
yeah, it's you know you don't reply to someone unless you absolutely want to and there are women there are women that don't give a fuck if you're in a relationship and absolutely will go in your inbox inbox talking about let's meet up or hit me on SNAP or Okay, let's see how you handle that. Let's see how you react to that. Yeah, because she's not the one that owes me the respect Yeah, it's you so I think that people blaming these things on the internet itself is really kind of fucking wack. It's just

Unknown Speaker  50:42  
like, you know, blaming first person shooter games like Call of Duty and shit on school shootings, which is like so fucking so fucking

Unknown Speaker  50:51  
stupid. Like there was violence before video games. A lot of it definitely so yeah, I think it wasn't trying to pinpoint on only fans alone because there's a lot of temptations on the internet besides that but only fans models are a big part of I think a lot of issues today in relationships and I guess I just wanted to kind of talk about it with our listeners and see what they're okay with Are they okay with Warren Are they okay with their man spending money on porn? What What are your opinion

Unknown Speaker  51:20  
and like again, we we did branch out into would you be upset if there wasn't access to the internet? And he bought a Playboy magazine? Because again, it's been around since the 50s. So that has so I mean, again your opinion hasn't changed I don't think I would be happy that he if I found a Playboy magazine like under the bed or in the you know, right nightstand or something. What the fuck are you looking at this shit for like I have the same things as her I have that's what it boils down to tastes too

Unknown Speaker  51:51  
It does make you feel less than Yeah. And again porn in general personally just doesn't make me feel that way. Because again, like we said it's not real life. I think spending money is what would piss me off that's that's my whole stance on it. Yeah, and it does make it a little different when it's somebody that you both could like see out at like the Walmart or something. Yeah, and you've done you know jacked your dick to her naked

Unknown Speaker  52:15  
punch. Oh my god I would be so fucking mad over that shit like that would that would really set me off right really sent me right

Unknown Speaker  52:24  
and that's an issue. Jordan calls only fans models diet prostitutes, you have to watch 140 characters in it again. If you're easily offended, don't watch his show. He he has a lot to say about it. Yeah, and I don't think Jordan would ever spend his money on those things. Yeah, it's never came down to it. I've never caught it. I don't have any real reason to not trust Jordan. But there are a lot of men and relationships out there right now who are spending a shit ton of money on it and they have kids and they have an angle like who cares? Go for it and if your girl is okay with it. Yeah, go for it again. It all goes down to it boils down to what she's okay with.

Unknown Speaker  53:01  
And it's not like it's not that we're saying that we're insecure about it because let me say their pussy could be drawers fuck right and I can be wet as far as like you're gonna leave me for some dry posi like okay, that's your that's your prerogative talks this out. Yep. Because somebody else is gonna get this

Unknown Speaker  53:17  
Yes. And what you won't do another man will just know that

Unknown Speaker  53:22  
one man's trash is another man's treasure facts so like I'm not insecure. Yeah, because I'm hot obviously. But

Unknown Speaker  53:29  
But when he of course like you know where the shit like I don't feel like Jordan can get someone better to love him as much as I do. He can get someone prettier but he can't get no one better

Unknown Speaker  53:40  
listen, always say like, Oh, you don't want me well, somebody else will definitely be here in 15 minutes for

Unknown Speaker  53:45  
sure. Matter of fact, he'll be here in a minute it's about to pull up right now. So So ladies, just don't put up with more than what you're willing and if you decide to put up with more than what you're willing then you're gonna have to sit in it and shut up because there's no point in continuing to cry wolf either deal

Unknown Speaker  54:04  
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Unknown Speaker  54:09  
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Unknown Speaker  54:15  
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Unknown Speaker  54:25  
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Unknown Speaker  54:32  
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Unknown Speaker  54:36  
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Unknown Speaker  56:05  
Bye