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Hannah & Sydney share their personal experiences with toxic friendships from the past and discuss what red flags listeners should consider as toxic behavior.
Hannah and Sydney share their personal experiences with toxic friendships from the past and discuss what red flags you should consider as toxic behavior.
Hannah K. 0:00 What's up everybody? Welcome to the PBP podcast where all we do is talk shit and ghost you like your toxic ex? I'm Hannah. I'm Sydney. Thank you guys for being here. If you're here is anybody Sydney F. 0:13 is anybody still here? Hello? Is anybody home? Do we still have listener? Hannah K. 0:16 It's been a minute. Sydney F. 0:17 It really has. Hannah K. 0:18 Even though we've been gone longer before. This feels so fucking weird. Sydney F. 0:23 It feels different. I'm still excited. But I was like nervous. Same. I feel like anytime we get out of our element it is it's nerve racking. Yeah, Hannah K. 0:30 it's not like I haven't seen you. I saw you a couple days ago. Sydney F. 0:33 Right. And we talked about the podcasts literally every day of our lives. It's not like we've just put it on the backburner completely a little but let's still discuss it. It's not like we throw it away. Hannah K. 0:42 Right? It's not like a fuck this is episode 30. By the way, Sydney F. 0:47 Episode 30. Hannah K. 0:48 Yeah, like you big three. We have tried to fucking record this four times. This Sydney F. 0:55 is literally the fourth attempt to but again, like I told Hannah that it would not be a recording session at the PvP if something didn't fuck up. That's just how it goes. Hannah K. 1:03 So how's it going? For the 18th time? Sydney F. 1:07 It was going good. I am I am okay. You know, still laid off due to back issues. financially. It's been hard. But we've got a lot of love around us. A lot of people helping us I have been busy with Jordans comedy thing that he's trying to pursue right now. I know a lot of people who listen probably have been to a show, and we appreciate it so much. But you know, I go and I tried to help promote and support him. And it's been a fun journey. So far. It's been I enjoy it. I just enjoy the comedy in general. It's nice to go sit and have a drink and watch him do what he loves. Hannah K. 1:41 Yeah. And it's nice for you guys as a couple to go out and do that together. Sydney F. 1:47 It is it's, it's been like a lot of many dates here and there. Right? Hannah K. 1:51 And it's like, you know, couples just do like the normal dates. And it's like, I want to do something different. Sydney F. 1:57 Right? Well, you know, I didn't really even before Jordan got into this comedy thing. I didn't even know that like places had comedy nights and comedy shows. Yeah. Especially around here, right? Until Jordan started to get booked for different places. And now it's like one of my favorite things to do. It's so much fun to go sit, have a drink, watch comedy, meet new people, you know, watch him make connections. He's truly a natural at it. Right? Of course, people that know Jordan outside of the comedy thing like you and they know he's funny anyway. Yeah. But he truly is a natural at it. So you know, if you see me post his shows on Facebook, you guys should come out and check it out. Hannah K. 2:34 I think to like, be a comedian, you have to be like, naturally funny. Sydney F. 2:37 Here's the thing. And I don't want it to sound like I'm shitting on anybody who is doing what he's doing, right? Because I've met some hilarious comedians along the way. And it takes a lot of courage to get up there. Because if if your joke, don't hit it, don't hit Hannah K. 2:52 the floor. Look at me like, right? What the fuck, you know, but Sydney F. 2:55 I've seen a lot of comedians bring like notebooks or they'll read off their phones, and I'm not knocking that. But again, those are still jokes that they took the time to write and they're all very funny. But Jordan gets up there with a mic and he talks. I'm not saying that he don't sit around and probably think about these jokes before he goes, but he just does it so naturally, effortlessly. And I would say this even if he wasn't my boyfriend, I truly think he has what it takes to be at the top and black comedy. Hannah K. 3:24 He's funny. He is so Ben and Jerry's not that many black comedians really Sydney F. 3:28 not. So I'm saying that's not like a career that you hear much about hardly ever. I just don't think it's an easy thing to do. So that's kind of why I've been a little bit away because it has been it's been busy. It's been Yeah, every weekend and even throughout the week, like tonight, he'll be in Bristol, Tennessee, which I'm not going but it's just been a lot but it's time to get refocused back on what we love because this is also our dream. I don't want to keep rambling but I had that going on and then I had COVID That sucked Long story short, it kicked my ass. I know a lot of you are saying I stuck up and it was like a common cold but no, it was not damn near took me out and how Hannah K. 4:04 are y'all like getting it three, four or five times? Yeah, all I'm gonna stay away from Sydney F. 4:08 me. Right? Like all I'm gonna say is is if your throat is itching if you're sneezing if you're coughing if your eyes are watering, stay the fuck from around me. I never want that again. It's not fun. No, it's really not Hannah K. 4:20 I don't know how people have endured it three four or five I don't either Sydney F. 4:24 and like you know, I know that vaccinations definitely keep people out of the hospitals from a majority but it didn't make it any easier on me and you know, I was telling you I still have like a lingering cough and like this weird like wheezing sound in my lungs. And I will say the worst part about it for me was losing my taste and smell. Hannah K. 4:44 See I never did and a lot of people have it. Some people have Sydney F. 4:47 but that made me like very panicky the fact that I couldn't smell anything was freaking me out. I was going around like sniffing my candles and like having panic attacks and like not being able to taste food because I just wasn't sure when it was going to return, but it actually it didn't stay gone long. It actually only lasted probably like three days longer after I got better. Well, that's good. Yes. Hannah K. 5:09 At least it's not fun. I remember when I got it back in February, was it? Yeah, it was February so almost a year ago. I can't believe that's crazy. It really is. Those body aches whole leaf Sydney F. 5:20 that it will take you out. I Hannah K. 5:22 thought something was wrong. It felt like needles were stabbing me constantly. Sydney F. 5:28 And when you're shivering to from the like the fever, it makes those body aches worse. It's just shitty after I had COVID that time I was like in the mindset of like staying inside my house again. Hannah K. 5:38 And people are out here just like willy nilly, Sydney F. 5:41 like spit in each other's mouths while they're having sex and stuff. It's crazy, huh? Hannah K. 5:46 There's some freaks out there like that. I know. Apparently, it's like a ritual. A ritual. Really? Yeah. It's apparently like make somebody fall in love with you. Wow. If you spit in their mouth while you're having sex. Sydney F. 5:58 Jordan open up. That's another we should say for another episode. Yeah. Are Hannah K. 6:01 you those No, save that for another day? For sure. I'm good. While you were away. I mean, like, I was working hard. You were that gives you a lot of time. So it ended up being 13 pages instead of 11. Wow, for my outline for a podcast episode and see like, this is what I mean. Like it takes four ever, right? 13 pages is ridiculous. Lots of fucking thesis paper. Sydney F. 6:27 But that it did give you the time that you needed to focus on your podcast Hannah K. 6:31 pianos. It was fun. I was actually having fun like doing it. So I'm happy I got to do that. Right. But I'm so glad that we're able to get back at Sydney F. 6:41 you too. Every time I'm away from it. I'm like, fuck, I just wish I was recording. Like, I just want to talk and like you'll hear things or you'll get ideas when you're not recorded. And you're like, Damn, we need to be on the mic. Like right now. Like right this second. And we we see that we're losing people in our Facebook group. Look, I get it. You're either annoyed because we don't post or you're a conservative Christian. I get it. I get it. But hopefully we can win you back. Hannah K. 7:05 But also we don't care. Like, Sydney F. 7:09 we're not gonna beg for you to say no, like, if Hannah K. 7:11 you want to go go live. We're not gonna beg you to say Sydney F. 7:16 no, but like, I think I think like we've said time and time again, like life is just it's just life Hannah K. 7:23 is a highway. Sydney F. 7:25 You know, it's not always easy to come together all the time and record, right, like, so it's really it's no deeper than that. If you think you have tea, you don't bet you have pissed, whatever that means. It means that you think you have tea because me and Hannah aren't putting out episodes. But really you have none. You have pissed or drink it. Hannah K. 7:43 You're dehydrated. Because you miss us. Right? Because we have the TN you don't know right? Sydney F. 7:49 They have to get it from us. All right, exactly. There's where the T coins so there's been Hannah K. 7:55 a lot of shit going on it really recently. And I'm not even going to call this person by their name. We're going to call them Kim Kardashians ex husband, right? We're not name dropping, because that's the only name he deserves at this point. And you know what's Sydney F. 8:13 crazy is I feel like he's the only thing that's really happened since we've recorded last. Hannah K. 8:18 There's always something going on for him with him. It'd be relevant, and we're talking about it. How many fucking episodes have we dedicated to Kim Kardashian, Zach's husband a lot. Sydney F. 8:29 And you know what? What makes me sick is like early on in our episodes. We when we would talk about music a lot. We would we would absolutely put Kim K's ex husband on a pedestal because we loved his music. Hannah K. 8:43 This is the man that fucking made Jesus walks. Are you fucking kidding me? It sucks. Sydney F. 8:49 It sucks because I'm telling you it is really hard to skip his music in the Hannah K. 8:53 car in rages me. Sydney F. 8:56 I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm having Halloween party this weekend. And I added a few of his songs on there. Hannah K. 9:02 I mean, I'm not mad. Sydney F. 9:03 How could I not? Hannah K. 9:05 I mean, it's really hard to skip certain songs of his because they just go so fucking hard. They really Sydney F. 9:12 do. And it's like you you don't have a party without some of that early music of his Hannah K. 9:18 This is the man that put out My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Yeah. Sydney F. 9:22 And I saw it tick tock where people were like, I'm so sick and tired of seeing people say yeah, but he made this album I'm like bitch he did make that album Don't act like it doesn't have you want to toe cold. Hannah K. 9:32 You had to be there. You really had to be there because that shit was art. I agree. purest form brilliance. Sydney F. 9:39 That's the scary thing about him is he is a genius in so many ways, fashion, music, whatever it may be, but he's taking this this genius mentality of his turning into hate and that is what scares me the most. Hannah K. 9:53 He ruined his entire fucking legacy in one week. It just pisses me off that If he's allowed certain people if you know you know into his life and make him hateful, I don't give a fuck. There are people who are bipolar. There are people who are schizophrenic beyond mentally ill, that aren't fucking hateful. Sydney F. 10:18 Right? When this shenanigans first began, I was like, damn, like Kanye is off his meds again, but at this point, it's like, we can't keep making excuses for you. Because at this point, like, you know what you're doing? Hannah K. 10:28 Yeah, because he went on whatever that fucking podcast was Adidas saying Go on. Drop me. Now. What? Yeah, bitch. Now when I got dropped, you got dropped Sydney F. 10:37 off something that was like, Look, I don't feel no type of way about Kanye, but I'm just thankful that we're gonna say Yeezys and Burlington for $50. Hannah K. 10:45 Again, like Adidas dropped him. They own all the colorways from Yeezys and all of his merchandise now so they can sell it. I think he wanted them to drop him so he can make his own brand. Sydney F. 10:58 I was gonna say it almost feels like it was on purpose. But ain't nobody gonna fuck him by that shit. Some people might some people I can name I can name a few. You know Hannah K. 11:07 what I mean? Apparently he lost his billionaire status to after Adidas dropped him. And Adidas was actually a Nazi brand. When they first started. I did not know that. Yeah, it was started by two Nazi brothers. And one of them. They started Puma as well. Sydney F. 11:25 Wow. First of all, it's very clear that and we've we've talked about this to each other. He is trying to appeal to white people. I don't I don't get it. I just don't get his motives. You know, like I was saying, I you know, my boyfriend and I had have very different views on this particular subject. I'll save that for 140 You might catch us on there. I struggled to understand even with Jordans explanation, because that's just not personally something that I can get behind. I think it's hateful. I think it's disgusting. And I think that he is causing a big whirlwind of nothing but hate and I don't understand it Hannah K. 11:59 right, and him having 18 million followers or 30. However many followers he has on Instagram and Twitter spewing this anti semitic hateful rhetoric about Jewish people. Dangerous, it is dangerous, absolutely scary and dangerous, because Sydney F. 12:19 people truly take idolizing someone to another level. Hannah K. 12:24 Right? It didn't start with a fucking gas chambers. It started with a man and words. Yes, that's how the Holocaust started. There's only 14 million Jewish people in the entire world. There were 16 million Jews during the Holocaust. They haven't bounced back from that. Yeah. Sydney F. 12:47 Which is so scary and so sad. It's awful. And you still have elderly Jews that are still tatted to this day, right from what they've met survived that survived the Holocaust. Right? And, you know, for them to have been so brave to still be here today, mentally, physically, after everything that they endured and have to see someone like this in the media trying to just take us back. How dare you Hannah K. 13:14 and the thing is, is that like Nazis, white supremacist, they don't like people of color, they'll agree with what he says because they believe that but if it came down to a white person they had to kill or a person of color, it's going to be the person of color. Right? Exactly. And not to mention that like even during World War Two in the Holocaust, even people who had dark hair dark eyes, they believed that they were possibly due if they would send them to a concentration camp, which was the scariest book as Sydney F. 13:47 we've seen one too many times in this country. History repeats itself right time and time and time and time again, hate never truly left this country never Hannah K. 13:58 ever. It's never it never has America has never been great. Sydney F. 14:02 No, it hasn't. I totally 1,000% Agree. Hannah K. 14:05 Tell me an era a decade when America was Sydney F. 14:09 great didn't have its issues right? Exactly. Hannah K. 14:13 Yes, we have freedom of speech. But only if you're white Yep. Only if you're a man yeah only if you're such in such color race age whatever the fuck it is. Sydney F. 14:27 Yes. It there's limitations to all of it. Right there's there's limits and exceptions to everything in this country for for someone with his status to speak so recklessly and I'm not saying that there isn't things that he said before? Not recently. Hannah K. 14:46 Yeah. Not to this magnitude not Sydney F. 14:48 to this magnitude, but things that he said before, you know, he really got this bad that I'm like, Damn, he's got a point. I can't get behind this. I understand that my boyfriend being black. He has to Different views for different reasons. And I, I have to agree with some of the things that he says, which again, catch it on 140. But I just personally, I feel the way I feel because I believe what I believe, and I understand that I'm white and it's different. But I to me, Kanye is spewing nothing but hey, it's bad. It's a bad time. You don't do this right now, especially because we've still have so far to go, Hannah K. 15:23 especially with the midterm elections coming by, and especially now that women no longer have bodily autonomy, and we are on the verge of a fucking fascist state. Yep. In America. Like what? Why? Why the fuck? Do y'all want to be white supremacist extremists so fucking bad? Because somebody looks different than you? Because somebody believes different than you like, what the fuck is it to you? This pisses me off because my ancestors on my grandma's side, their fucking last name was Lehman, which is a fucking Jewish last name. I don't know for sure if I am Jewish, but they did come from Germany, on the Rhine River where most Jewish people did migrate from right. The only way I would find out is through a DNA test. I don't really want to take a DNA test because just for different reasons that we can talk about another day, but I can only imagine what Jewish people are feeling right now. Yeah, black people, yes, have been oppressed for centuries always. But so have Jewish people, if not the same amount. They have one of them dead for so long. And they have always been resilient and gotten through extinction. It's just very upsetting Sydney F. 16:54 it is. And you know not to take the light off the more important subject of the matter, but you may I don't look, I don't really give a fuck how people feel about the Kardashian Jenner clan. I really don't care because I like them. I'm not really not like a fan. But I will watch Kardashians on Hulu because yeah, I enjoy watching them. It's just like, I love the drama a same the T and you know, Kim Kardashian, at the end of the day is a human who had children for this man. And you know, what really kills me is he makes this comments about her, you know that she had a sex tape and she did Playboy and this that and the third, okay, you knew all these things when you married her? Right? You knew all these things when you had kids with her? Hannah K. 17:38 Right? So why are you disrespecting her? So Sydney F. 17:39 why are you publicly shaming the mother of your children? Who is raising your kids? Hannah K. 17:47 Talking and ranting about right? Bullshit? Sydney F. 17:51 But do you honestly think that your kids are going to have any respect for you when they grow up and have an opinion of their own? I hope and pray that your kids don't act like you. You're right. That is the only thing that you know, with the whole because again, there's bigger issues with what he's saying. But he's still daily disrespecting the mother of his children, the grandmother of his children. And let me tell you something. If there's one thing in this world that I would not fuck with, that would be Kris Jenner. Right? So again, I know it's not as important but it's still worth mentioning, you know, because I'm sure there's a lot of exes of which there is a lot of exes and men out there that trashed the same woman that they fell in love with and had babies with Hannah K. 18:30 and yet here you are not fucking paying child support, right? Crazy. Sydney F. 18:34 Where are you at Crazy Hannah K. 18:35 Crazy me also, but Kim was also out to dinner with fucking Ivanka. Sydney F. 18:40 Ivanka Trump. Yeah, not a good look him but also like Hannah K. 18:43 I'm pretty sure Ivanka is brother in law owns half of Cannes skins. Sydney F. 18:50 Again, we don't really know what was said at that dinner, but I know one thing's for sure. I would be like absolutely zero paparazzi. Do not let anybody see me with Ivanka Trump. Hannah K. 18:58 I would not be caught dead with her trump. Period. Yeah, Sydney F. 19:04 not a good look. But speaking of the Jenner the trash hired eyes. Hannah K. 19:11 That shit like popped off so quick. It popped Sydney F. 19:15 off and like yes, it's like damn, but I just want to I just want to make a point from that whole situation. If you didn't know. There is a little bit of proof that Travis has always been seeing his sidekick Yeah, for sweet robes, right on Instagram. She looks like a floozy. Sorry. But anyway, the the point I want to make about this, it doesn't matter as a woman if you have a billion dollars, it doesn't matter if you go get your titties done. If you go get your lips done. If you have the fattest ask if you have the fattest, ask if you get a BBL if you give a man a house, if you have the wellness policy, if you have the wellness policy if you give a man a baby if you buy a man a fucking iPhone 14 Promax and pay the bill every month. It doesn't matter. He's still going To want more and I'm not speaking on every man in existence. I'm just saying ladies do not do the most for somebody thanking with the intentions of trying to keep them from cheating on you. Hannah K. 20:11 Because at the end of the day, he's still going to do it. He's going to do it regardless Sydney F. 20:15 of if a man who was out to use you for all you have, he wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Nothing you do even popping out children for this man is going to save you Kylie Jenner has been cheated on Beyonce has been cheated on nobody safe. That's just the one thing that I really wanted to make a point about, Hannah K. 20:32 but the whole thing like with Kylie and Travis and everybody like blew up so fast Sydney F. 20:39 it really did. And like I think it's funny because I was telling Hannah when we were first were texting about this. I was like, you know, it's hard because women like this young Sweet Row are going to be cloud chasers. She like doesn't really have like a status without the Kylie Travis drama. You know what, um, who is she right at first I felt like maybe this is you know, just some stuff for her to be relevant. But there was some screenshots and again, I don't doubt it that Travis has been dicking her down behind collies back this entire time I'm not ever going to blame the woman and you know, whatever vice versa, but nobody's safe Hannah K. 21:15 and Travis to be beefing over Travis Scott of all people. You look like the glory version of ASAP Rocky. Sydney F. 21:23 He really does. He's skinny. He's just a little he's a little skinny. Hannah K. 21:26 She is not cute. Like he's not an attractive man. Sydney F. 21:30 I don't think I really don't think so either. I think I'm more so like, I was always a fan of his music. Especially AstroWorld astral when AstroWorld hit the scene. That was a time. It was a time. I mean, I know that there's bigger issues with the whole astral world and Astro fest, but let's be honest, when this man put out AstroWorld the album he was in his Duffy. Sorry, right. But you know, again, it's just it just raises a bigger point. Like you can do anything in the world for a man and they're still going to think about other policy. Hannah K. 22:00 You could do everything right. Everything right? Yep. And he's still going to cheat if he wants to. Sydney F. 22:07 It's, it's sad. It's sad to think that because I feel like a lot of the times, you know, even in our inner circles, you know, with your friends, girls are getting their lips done. Girls are getting boob jobs. And I hope and pray that you're doing that for you. Please don't ever do it because you think it's going to make your man stay round? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I say this because, Hannah K. 22:29 like your boobs are small. You need to get a boob job. Right? Sydney F. 22:32 I say this because a friend of a friend recently had her breasts done. She's not from around here. Y'all don't have tea. So don't think you do. She recently got her breasts on her man is not a faithful one. Did they have a kid together? So a she pushed out a kid for him. And she made a comment to this friend of mine. She was like, well, now he's not gonna go dog me out. Once I get these titties. Yes, he will. Yes, he will grow like please don't do it for the wrong reasons. You could be the most snatched woman in this world and you are not safe from a man cheating on you. So with the whole Kylie thing, and with this friend of a friend making this comment the other day, I felt like it was important to say Hannah K. 23:09 Yeah, and just know that you're not worth less than the other woman. She's just easier Sydney F. 23:15 facts. That's facts. And you know what? And I can say her name because it's our friend Chelsea and I have talked about this a lot lately. Men are just so wired differently that the stupid shit that they do like scroll on only fans spend money on only fans cheat to us. It's like, wow, like you really are a piece of shit. But in their mind, that's normal. Like, what do you mean? Like it was just a picture of a puzzle? No, like you're a piece of shit. Like we are just on two totally different mindsets, Hannah K. 23:48 two different planes of thinking, Yes, women can do multiple things at one time, but men have to focus on one thing, right? This is why women are just better. Sydney F. 23:59 And truly, I mean, I'm telling you, if you catch your man doing things like that, there's a great possibility that he truly didn't think he was doing anything wrong. They're just wired that way. Could you imagine being so obsessed with policy that just You just had to spend that $30 on that policy? Could you imagine like, You're weird for that? I would never pay for dick. Hannah K. 24:20 Oh, no. Sydney F. 24:23 No, men are so obsessed with stuff like that. We have vibrators that do a 10 times better job than any man. Yeah, sorry. If you're ever wondering why your girl like suddenly reaches in her drawer in the middle of sex, it's because you're never gonna get her there. And if she doesn't pull this out, we're fucked. I tend to get off on tangents. But my point is that please don't ever blame yourself. Your man is just a man at the end of the day, and men can be real pieces of shit. Sometimes they will learn eventually who the real one is who the true one is. And the only thing these only fans photos and these other women can do for them is make them come. That's it. So thank you for listening to my tangent. Hannah K. 25:01 Thank you for coming. Since we talked about Leonardo DiCaprio and his younger women that he dates too young Sydney F. 25:10 for Leo DiCaprio if y'all remember. Too old too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, too old. Hannah K. 25:15 That's Billy Eilish is now dating. She's 20 By the way, my mind. Yeah, she seems older to me, like just maybe more mature. Sydney F. 25:25 She does. And I think it's because of her vocals. Like she just sounds like a mature woman. But anyways, Hannah K. 25:29 yeah, she's dating. I guess the lead? Is it the lead singer of the band? The neighborhood, which I'm never fucking heard of in my life. Sydney F. 25:38 I've heard of them, but I probably couldn't name a song. Hannah K. 25:40 I'm wack as fuck, I guess I think I've just seen it Sydney F. 25:42 on like somebody's t shirt before. But that's really it. Probably. I don't know him either. Hannah K. 25:46 He's 31. And she's 20. Yeah, bro. Major disconnect. Your friends are questioning you major disconnect Sydney F. 25:54 again, just because it's legal. Like we've mentioned on the Leo DiCaprio show that we did. It's still gross. It's still weird. You're on two different wavelengths in life, right? And I'm a huge Billy fan. So a part of me is like, I'm glad you're happy. Because at the end of the day, it is legal. But at the same time, I have to be like real and be like, this is kind of gross to me, because you can't possibly want the same thing. Girl Hannah K. 26:17 We can't even drink legally at the bar. Yeah. Sydney F. 26:21 That is a big point. Hannah K. 26:22 She can't even drink legally that I mean, let's be honest. Like they're gonna let her into the bar. Probably because it's believed because yeah, yeah, but the thing is, is that it's still illegal to drink underage. Sydney F. 26:35 That's a big point. If you can't even bring your girl to the bar Hannah K. 26:39 abre I'm sad. I knew. Sydney F. 26:43 It's just It's just weird. I mean, you know, it's, it's just something like we mentioned before, if you haven't listened to that episode, you should go back and check it out. It's a good one, it is a good one, we go into more depth about it there. But I'm sorry. But if you are just that far apart and age, I can't Hannah K. 26:58 get I'll have nothing in common. I can't cosign on that. And she deserves like somebody that's closer in age, that's going to be like Good for her. Sydney F. 27:06 Right? That they can grow together, right? And go through those different stages of life, especially in your 20s. Hannah K. 27:11 Because at 31, like, I'm ready to get married exactly Sydney F. 27:15 this what I'm saying like you go through your 20s. And you have different phases, you go through different different experiences. And in your 30s you go through experiences and changes that are just totally different from Hannah K. 27:25 when you're 20 at 20. I thought I knew everything. I didn't know she Sydney F. 27:31 same. You couldn't tell me nothing. We thought we were something and you can tell me nothing, right? I hate to quote Kim K's ex husband, but that's really how it was Hannah K. 27:41 period. But we just wanted to bring that up really quickly. Because that just happened. Sydney F. 27:45 It's important. Like recently, it is like crazy how it happens. Like after we put out that and again Hannah K. 27:49 girlies like if he's fucking 10 years older than you and you're like, 1819 like he's not into you for your smile. Your laugh like, he doesn't want you for that reason, though. Sydney F. 28:01 He thinks that you're easily manipulated because you are because you're so young. And he thinks that he's going to have the upper hand and everything and get sex whenever you want. And he will anyway, because you're young. Hannah K. 28:11 Yeah, Sydney F. 28:12 I would have done the same. It's not you it's just your age. I mean, you know, you're easily manipulated you don't. I know so many things. Now speaking from experience, period, men could never walk on us now. But they cut it Hannah K. 28:27 love to see them fucking true. Right, but they couldn't when we were 20. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? We'd go home crying always. Especially me. Like, Sydney F. 28:38 are you did you actually go home crying? Hannah K. 28:40 Probably. At some point. Probably. Sydney F. 28:44 It was a little bit tougher exterior interior than me. Hannah K. 28:46 But probably but that don't mean I didn't cuss them out fast. That's facts for today's main subject. We wanted to talk about toxic friends. Yes. Because that's like a big subject Sydney F. 29:00 right now. This is huge. And it's you know, it's something I don't think we've ever talked about on the show. Hannah K. 29:06 We've never talked about friendship really on the show ever at all right? Sydney F. 29:09 Because I feel like losing friends is harder than losing boyfriends for sure. I think because when you have a girlfriend, who you spill Hannah K. 29:20 everything to your gut, who your entire life, Sydney F. 29:24 everything to your sexual experiences, your relationships, your childhood trauma, like they know everything about you, and they have all of this on you and then they turn on you and they're not the person that you thought they were. It's just a really shitty and weird feeling. Hannah K. 29:38 It's an awful feeling. It is. It sucks and like sometimes, yeah, you were the shitty one. But there are most of the time. If you have decent morals, they're the ones that sucked, right. Sydney F. 29:52 Well, you know, and when talking about this, this might be something that you need to work on, or it might be something that you need to notice and your best Friend, hey man, hey, I'm doing this maybe I'm the toxic best friend, I think it's important to self reflect, absolutely make sure that you're not this person. I feel like it's so important as women to have close women around you. Absolutely to have that female companionship in your life because it is hard out here as women energy. If I didn't have female energy in my life, I would go fucking insane. Hannah K. 30:24 They need to give the same energy that you're giving. Yes. And you can feel it too. Sydney F. 30:29 Yes. And I don't want to talk too much. But I can share an experience that Hannah already knows. And I'm not even here to really talk shit about this person. I'm not here to drag this person. But I think it's safe to say that this person is a good example of a toxic best friend. You know, I had made a friend at one point in my life. And again, this has been three years ago now almost four, probably I don't even know where we're at. I had met this person. She didn't have kids like me. This is someone that I worked alongside every day. And I truly loved this person. She liked all the same music as me, you know, we was smoking together, we was hanging out every day. I just truly adored her. Hannah K. 31:13 And the thing is, is that like you do tend to get friends that you work with because you're with them every day 80% of the time, Sydney F. 31:21 but I just I just felt like I had made another bet. Of course, I've always had you and I've always had Chelsea and I've always had Taylor and I don't need more than that. But it was cool to have another one. Hannah K. 31:32 That's more roar love, like more energy. Sydney F. 31:35 And you know, this girl had she has been through a lot in her life. And you know, a lot of the times when I think about this, I'm thinking you know, Sydney, you know of her experiences, you know of her trauma. Maybe she's different now than what she was there because she has been through it. And I still to this day think she's a strong person. But long story short, you know, you set this person up with one of your friends because she's been cheated on. She ended up lying to me about speaking to another one of my friends. Not that I would ever give a fuck. I actually tried to set them up. But they all they did was talk shit about each other. And then when they did get together, they both lied to me about it, which hurt my feelings because I'm thinking what did I do to y'all Hannah K. 32:16 and why I feel the need to lie about it. I'm stupid. I would have Sydney F. 32:20 been ruined y'all on I'd have been like Hell yeah, like I was trying to get y'all together. Right, right. And so she was more being sneaky. And he was just like lying to me. He told me that, you know, he was receiving gifts from a totally different woman, when really they were from this friend of mine. And I just felt really like disrespected and like hurt because like y'all are supposed to be my close friends. Why are you lying to me, I will admit that during that time, I said a lot of hateful and mean things about this girl because I was mad. I regret that. Hannah K. 32:49 I just want to say really quickly, like lying, just to lie is like literally the dumbest shit to do on the planet. Like I can understand, like, maybe telling a lie to save somebody's feelings from being hurt, but like lying, just do it for no fucking reason is dumb. Sydney F. 33:07 And that's a toxic trait to look for. It's like grow the fuck Hannah K. 33:09 up. Sydney F. 33:10 And I will say, but I didn't have signs in this friendship that this person would ever lie to me. So this was also something that like, caught me off guard. But I did say things during this time that were really nasty and really mean and I shouldn't have said them. And I regret that. And I tried reaching out to apologize for saying those things. Because at the end of the day, I just want to clear myself, I am sorry for the things that I said out of anger. I'm sorry for the things that I said out of hurt. I'm sorry, I said these things because I missed the person that you were Hannah K. 33:38 you cleared your content, right? That's what you wanted to do. Right? If they didn't reciprocate that's on them. Sydney F. 33:45 Right? I just wanted to make this person aware that these things were said out of anger, I missed you like you wasn't in my life anymore. All of a sudden after being in my life every single day. This is just a good example of something that I still haven't gotten over. And I don't know if it's really it is anger to an extent but it's also because I'm like, damn, like, I miss having that person around me. Like I really thought she was different. And I still wish her the best. I hope that she is happy and I hope that she is healthy and I'm never gonna wish ill on her. But my point is that Friendship Breakups are hard Hannah K. 34:19 they are they're hard and you don't want to wish ill on people even though they've done you wrong. Like you don't want that karma to come back on you. Sydney F. 34:26 I don't and especially like look, I'll talk shit on my exes all fucking day. Well, they deserve drag them through the mud. But being a woman, I don't want to sit around and publicly, you know on the podcast, humiliated Shame, shame. I don't want to do that to another woman because this is a woman that I loved dearly. And so I guess it just out of hurt. I said things that I shouldn't have said but again, it came from a place of total heartbreak and I'll let you elaborate on this. But if you go somewhere with a friend and you're around males, you know you go to a little get together whatever and She's constantly trying to embarrass you Hannah K. 35:02 know, man, Sydney F. 35:03 that's a shitty friend. Hannah K. 35:04 That's not a friend. That's an enemy. Sydney F. 35:06 And I think it happens more often than what we wrote. So a wolf in sheep's clothing. It is it is like if you've come in the house with the men, and she knows that you got somebody there that you're crushing on, and she comes in and she's like, gosh, she was farting in the car. You don't do that. Hannah K. 35:20 No, don't say that. I mean, it's different. If it's like your boyfriend from like, three, right? It's different. That way, like, because you guys shit with the door open. Sydney F. 35:30 Or she makes a comment that like, Oh, she changed 50 times before we got here. Or, you know, Oh, you look thin today. Just comments like that. Really? Watch out for that shit. Hannah K. 35:41 Yeah, they aren't your friend. They're there. They want to be there, your fucking enemy. Sydney F. 35:45 And if they just acting different around men in general, Hannah K. 35:48 like they don't like you. They do not like you Sydney F. 35:51 know, they're using you. And I think a lot of the times people probably do miss those signs. Hannah K. 35:56 And I think like they pretend to be your friend because they don't have other friends. Yes, Sydney F. 36:01 for that reason. I just feel like I feel like this is something really important to say because you know, if a friend does make that comment, a lot of people might be like, well, she's just honest. Yes, you should always be honest with your girlfriends, but there's some things that you keep behind closed doors between each other Hannah K. 36:15 and not out loud in front of fucking everybody. You don't embarrass them, you just pull them to the side and be like, Hey, I'm not trying to embarrass you. Like I want to help like you let me help you. Whatever. You don't fucking try to publicly humiliate and embarrass your friends. It's not something you do Sydney F. 36:33 it is it is a very common issue among female friendships I think and I think a lot of the times Hannah K. 36:39 like for sure yeah, there are like people our age that stuff I can do it but couldn't be me Sydney F. 36:45 was what I'm saying. Like our friendships are tight. Like we would never do that to each other. No, never like with you. And Chelsea and Taylor. Like, I know I've got it on lock with the three of you bitches, right. Hannah K. 36:55 Like, like, if somebody's trying to fight we're pulling the fuck up. Period. This person trying to fight me right there. Sydney F. 37:03 Right. Your friend should never judge you either. Like I am definitely I think the friend group. I'm probably the one who was most vocal about everything in my life. Like I will tell you all about the dirty sex I had last night. You know what I'm saying? I feel like a friend. Yeah. And none of you ever judge me? No, never. Y'all are just like period. Hannah K. 37:22 gratulations I'm so I just need Sydney F. 37:25 friends like that around you Hannah K. 37:27 Exactly. Like, even if it's like not something you agree with, you know, fully, you're just like, oh, good for you. Sydney F. 37:34 Good for you. Couldn't be me, but Hannah K. 37:37 like, it's just like, the different personalities because some people are more reserved, like keep personal things to themselves. And then you're more vocal and like out there with your personal life more than Sydney F. 37:50 there's been plenty of things that I've said about my life. And I look at Hannah and her jaws on her chest and she's like, Hannah K. 37:55 are you okay? To talk to your therapist today? Sydney F. 37:58 But I say on the podcast, y'all. Y'all can't see Hannah's face but I can Hannah K. 38:02 I have dropped my jaw. Numerous amount of times. It but I don't that's like the good thing like about friends that are like, Sydney F. 38:11 opposite to like, draw out those different things in each other. Yeah, and especially Hannah K. 38:15 like also having a different tastes and men like my best friends completely opposite of me when it comes to men, and just certain things like that, in general. Not saying that. That's what you should look for. But like, it's a plus, Sydney F. 38:31 it is a plus, it can be a very positive thing. Hannah K. 38:33 Yeah, cuz we're not gonna have a crush on the same person. Sydney F. 38:36 Right? Never number. Hannah K. 38:40 Unless it's P Sydney F. 38:41 unless it's Pete. Well, Hannah K. 38:42 like, I don't have to share. Yeah, I mean, like, I don't like obviously, I'd like to have him well, Sydney F. 38:48 I would just I would be like, I can't take this opportunity away from Hannah. This is hers Hannah K. 38:52 know me like But you said you had a crush on him first. Sydney F. 38:55 That's how it should. And if Pete Davidson shows up with Timothy then I'm safe, Hannah K. 39:00 their friends. Perfect. Sydney F. 39:04 Let's go over Timothy all day. I don't have to worry about it. And I think a good point to make too is like, look for the signs in your friendship. sneakiness trying to embarrass you, you know, lying or you know, even if someone makes a comment, like hey, like someone's always talking about you. You know, these are things that you should really take into consideration to maybe just cut this person off. I Hannah K. 39:24 remember when my ex was trying to say that you were talking shit about me. He said that don't you remember? No, you don't remember that? He was saying something like this was a couple of years ago like I think we had just broken up but he was saying that you were talking shit about me. Sydney F. 39:40 It's it was one thing men do have is Audacity. I've never had a personal conversation with this man in my life. And he's the same man that called me a cow on Twitter, Hannah K. 39:50 fat shaming. Yeah, and like being a fucking asshole, but he's Sydney F. 39:54 also the type of person that would be jealous of you having other relationships whether it was a friendship or right So he didn't want me in the picture regardless, right? I've never had a one on one conversation with this man in my life Hannah K. 40:06 so I actually have a toxic friend story period. Let's hear it so this god this this fucking cut deep to like this was some serious fucking shit because they were also my cousin Oh are they are my cousin sips IP, they are my cousins. And we talk this was a long time ago I have is not t sorry. Let me start let me just let me get my bearings here. So she's still my family and we were attached at the hip besties everywhere she went, I was there everywhere I went to she was there we were inseparable, right? I was dating a guy we dated for a year and a half and broke up and then all of a sudden, like she was acting weird. And I saw his name like pop up on her phone. Yeah. And I was like, why are you talking to him? I don't know. She made up some kind of excuse and they started dating a couple months after Sydney F. 41:02 which was like a surprise to you. Like, you know, like what the hell was baffled, Hannah K. 41:05 I'm sure baffled I look back and I'm like, What the fuck ever? Like he's not sure he was interested to me. He's not shipped to me now. He's still trying to buggin message me Sydney F. 41:16 This is facts. I know this. I've seen the evidence and but like she's still Hannah K. 41:19 my family regardless word and just now getting back to speaking on a regular basis. She just had a baby. I messaged her. I said, Hey, I've been meaning to text you. But I didn't want to bother you. Because I know you had a newborn. And I hope you're doing okay. Because you had a fucking baby. Right? traumatizing couldn't be me. Right. And I really want to come see him. And you know, I hope you're doing well. Just regular chit chat Be the bigger person. And she said, I love you. I'm glad like you thought of me. Because I was like, I'm not gonna bother her because I know there are so many people like blowing up her phone. Like she just had a baby like, I would wouldn't want somebody tell me. Yeah, I was like, I know you're overwhelmed. And I don't want to be one of those people to look at it like because I wouldn't want people constantly messaging me asking to see my newborn baby. But I was like, I want to come see him. And she was like, I love you. Thank you for thinking about me. And we've talked like since then also, but that was really hard. That was one of the hardest things I've ever had to go through. Right? Because Sydney F. 42:33 it was a betrayal. It was you know, and I feel like me personally, I'm already hip. Like, if my friend's ex is hitting me up, I'm gonna be like, Bitch, look at this, like immediately. But if she truly felt that she liked this person, the right thing to do would have been like, can I talk to you like, this is what's going on? I want to know how you feel about this. It's it all comes down to honesty. Hannah K. 42:58 Yeah, and that doesn't mean I'm still not going to be heard about it. But I'm just going to be glad that you were up front with Sydney F. 43:04 me. Exactly. I still trust that person. Because Hannah K. 43:08 we were both really young to at that point. I was 21 Yeah, still 22 and a little while so it was a while ago, but I mean regardless, it fucking hurt. Like it felt like a knife was in my back. It fucking sucks. Sydney F. 43:24 Yeah, it does. It's like wow, you that's who you are. Okay, but Hannah K. 43:28 and like it's like crazy to me how best friends can cheat with your boyfriend. I can't believe that shit. Like actual rounds for Sydney F. 43:36 an open I'm sorry. Both of them. Right? Like, that is just like, Hannah K. 43:43 that is some like dog shit right there. Yes, it is. And they're not your friend. Sydney F. 43:48 I'm there in. I'm not even saying my best friends. But people, my acquaintances to try to get with Jordan have something that happens to us because I'm coming for you life period. Hannah K. 43:58 I saw this tick tock today that was like, it's crazy that you would cheat on somebody that knows your social security number. All right, don't get like signed up for the military. Sydney F. 44:13 So true. It's so true. I think it's just important to not be afraid to cut people out, especially in your late 20s Your early 30s. It's really like I know some of our younger listeners don't get this right now. But I promise you one day you will understand that the only thing that matters is your mental peace. Hannah K. 44:31 Literally. That's all that matters. Nothing is better Sydney F. 44:34 than sitting in a clean home with a snack watching TV and not having to worry Amen about if your best friend is talking about you. Or if your man is cheating on you. Your candles are lit Life is good. Just trust me on this preach because that is the only thing that's going to matter to you one day so don't be afraid to cut that bitch off. Why Hannah K. 44:57 aren't we at a church preaching right now? like this, this is the type of shit that they need to be preaching in church. Really, literally, because this is like ancient in school says this is basic morality, it really is. And immoral. This is what I mean, that's what it comes down to. Sydney F. 45:14 It's like things that feel so big at that age in your early 20s, even even your mid 20s, it's to an extent, they're just not that big, temporary, it's all temporary, and it's not gonna matter. Hannah K. 45:26 It's all temporary. That's what I mean, I have this too shall pass on my, you know, tattooed on it. And so true, because that's when like, I was younger when I got it. And I was like, how like that because everything is just temporary it Sydney F. 45:40 is. And again, like I said, All that matters is your mental fucking peace, you will get there. I was Hannah K. 45:45 talking to somebody about like having a kid and like them going to school and like being worried about what they're doing, where they're at, are they being safe having sex? Like, of course, you're going to be concerned about those things. But as long as they're not school shooters or like, on crack, you're not going to stop somebody from having sex because they're going to do it regardless. Yeah, just as long as you teach them the proper way to go about having sex. Sydney F. 46:17 Here's the thing, life experiences, life mistakes. Life lessons are very important. I think a lot of the times my mom probably allowed me to make mistakes, because that was a lesson within itself. Like I was like, Shit, I don't want to do that again. Right? You know what I'm saying? Right? And I think it's important to understand that but like Hannah K. 46:34 going with this is like, if they're not doing those big things that have consequences. It's not that big of a deal. Like, everything is just temporary at that point. That's facts so lightly, like it's not as big as you make it out to be. It's very true. We could be great parents. Sydney F. 46:55 For people who don't we really got people that Hannah K. 46:58 don't have kids, like are you fucking like, listen to us? We we give the parental advice. The parent coaches over here. They're like, these bitches have no fucking clue. They're holding their Sydney F. 47:11 newborns and their toddlers like screaming at their lips. Shut Hannah K. 47:13 the fuck. Yeah, and we're Sydney F. 47:15 over here like it's temporary. Hannah K. 47:17 Yeah, it's you gotta girl what it is keep keep thriving. So anything hold that baby? Sydney F. 47:25 This is this is good. I love it. We got it all off our chest. Yeah, Hannah K. 47:29 I feel so much better. Now. That went well. Honestly. Very happy. Sydney F. 47:33 I was nervous. Me too. Hannah K. 47:34 Like I had the jitters like Did you honestly think we was gonna lose ourselves? I mean, I didn't know that we still had it. We have one point or still the shit because you were like you think we saw and so I was like What What's Sydney F. 47:49 your like what what is barbecue sauce? And I was like no like Hannah K. 47:53 barbecue sauce on it right but yeah, I'm happy to be back me too. This was I'm so happy saying like so endorphins serotonin bitch Sydney F. 48:06 oh now we're back on we're gonna be on a roll now and we will disappear again in a month but we'll be back non-playing I hope we don't again you never make Hannah K. 48:14 promises you never know. It's life is shit happens it really is but go ahead and follow us on social media if you want Sydney F. 48:22 please Come Come join our group Hannah K. 48:24 we would love to have you we really Sydney F. 48:25 would it's truly the PPP listeners and the show is it's it's a really fun place for women to be normal women and that's really all this has ever been about is just relaxed conversation real asked life as a woman but believe it or not, we see all men listeners that love the show. Hannah K. 48:44 Yeah, we're happy to have you and we're never going to stray away from being our realest truest. Oh, never. I mean that never stand on that. Sydney F. 48:54 I'm standing. Oh my gosh, like if we get Hannah K. 48:56 big. I'm still gonna fucking talk about I'm still going to drag my fucking boyfriend husband who the fuck ever. And he's gonna be right next to me shaking his head. Yes. So Sydney F. 49:07 on our stacks while we're trashing them on the podcast. Hannah K. 49:09 Keep dogging me, baby. Sydney F. 49:12 No, it's so much fun. I'm happy to be here. So Hannah K. 49:14 saying anyways, but that's it. That's it. Thank you guys so much for listening. And we'll talk to you all in the next one. Sydney F. 49:21 Bye
